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Q&A with Steve Smith
Here are some answers to
questions submitted to Steve's site over the past year. If
you would like to submit a question, write to:
questions@vitalinformation.com.
Q.
Hi, Steve.
On a few different occasions (in
Modern Drummer and in your DVD), I've heard you say
that the fundamental, underlying pulse of all U.S. music is
a "swing" pulse. Or, at least that is my interpretation of
your statement.
I've often wondered exactly what
you mean when you say that. Are you saying that a triplet
undercurrent can be felt on some level in all U.S. music? If
so, I am confused because there is definitely U.S. music
that is 16th-based.
I realize that the drum set was
invented to play jazz music...so one might say that all U.S.
drum set rhythms evolved from a jazz feel. Still, it seems
to me that there may be more to your statement than that,
and I was wondering if you would elaborate on it.
My instinct tells me that the
point you are making is an important one, and I want to make
sure that I understand it! Thanks so much.
- Matt
A.
Matt,
There are some forms of U.S.
music that have a 16th note feel, but if you trace the
origins of the current feels you will find they have their
start in a more literal swing feel.
Over time many of the U.S. feels
have become more “straight,” this is true. One of my main
points in bringing up the idea that the underlying pulse of
U.S. music started with the swing pulse is to encourage
younger drummers to develop that pulse in their own playing.
Then when they play some straighter 8th or 16th based music,
their playing will have a deeper groove.
Without that
swing-pulse-undercurrent their playing can seem stiff and
one-dimensional instead of grooving and multi-layered. The
swing pulse is the kind of undercurrent that the great
groove drummers have and it’s the reason they stand out as
groove drummers. For example, the following drummers (from
different generations) all have excellent feel: Earl Palmer,
Hal Blaine, Bernard Purdie, Ringo Starr, Charlie Watts, John
Bonham, Steve Gadd, Jeff Porcaro, Steve Gadd, Vinnie
Colaiuta, Steve Jordan, and Jim Keltner.
They all swing, even if they are
playing something in the straight 8th mode. They can all
play grooving shuffles, which is an ability that is missing
in the foundation of most young players. The shuffle is
truly the main foundational “rock” groove, and it comes
directly out of jazz and the blues. Simply put, my point is:
get the swing pulse in your playing and it will deepen your
groove.
Q.
Steve,
It was nice meeting you at
Drum Fantasy Camp! I have a few more jazz
technique questions if you have time to answer.
Do you use the heel/toe hi-hat
technique in all types of jazz (swing, be-bop, contemporary,
etc. & at all tempos) or just certain types of jazz, lower
volume and maybe slow to mid-tempo situations? For example,
would you still use that approach with, say, a really fast
tune and even with a loud & large big band?
Also, you said you "feather" the
bass drum even at really fast tempos. Do you "feather" on
all beats to the bar at fast tempos or maybe just on 1 & 3,
or even just 1, for example?
Thanks,
- John
A.
John,
I use the heel/toe HH and BD
feathering, on all beats to the bar, at all tempos,
including very fast tempos. Of course, I also use heel
(slightly) up on both the HH and BD at all tempos too, I
don’t keep myself locked into only one way of playing the
pedals.
You can work up the control to
play all tempos with heel/toe and heel down feathering if
you take your time and practice these techniques very
relaxed and let them develop over time.
Q.
Steve,
Thank you for years of great
music and AMAZING videos. Can you please help me figure out
the title track to Frontiers? I realize it is
a linear groove, but I am completely stumped.
Thanks.
- Justin
A.
Justin,
Wow! That’s a real “blast from
the past!” I hadn’t listened to that recording in years.
I did find a copy of the
Frontiers CD here at my place but it was still in
the shrink-wrap. Anyway, I listened to it and transcribed
the three main sections.
It is a pretty wild beat. I
don’t always play the “one,” and that can be disorienting. I
actually got some writing credit on that track because the
entire tune was written around my drumbeats.
At that time, in 1983, I was working on some ideas that were
not linear, but may have sounded linear. They incorporate
“overlapping” parts, like in the chorus where the right hand
plays the cymbal on the “&” of 1, in combination with the
snare drum, and then the right hand plays “2” on the bell of
the cymbal while the bass drum plays “2&.”
When it comes to playing
grooves, I feel the overlapping parts have a smoother flow
than the linear concept. I use some linear ideas in my fills
and solos, but for grooves I tend to use the overlapping
concept.
The intro starts with two crashes that are on the “& of 3”
and the “& or 4” and I don’t play the “1.” Then, we go into
the verse and, again, I don’t play the “1.”
In the verse I play a small bell
(about 6”) called an “Ice Bell” on the “& of 3.” This was
made by UFIP and it’s identical to a Zildjian Zil-Bell --
Zildjian didn’t make the Zil-Bells in the early '80s. It
looks like a bell of a cymbal, without the rest of the
cymbal.
To get into the chorus from the
verse, I play the last measure of the chorus.
Click
here to view
the chart in a new window.
Q.
Mr. Smith,
Are you using some of the new
Armand series? If yes, which ones?
Thanks.
- Greg
A.
Greg,
I love the sound of the Armand
series cymbals. I am using the 19” Beautiful Baby ride, the
14” Armand hi hats, and an 18” thin Armand crash.
Q.
Hi Steve,
I’m still searching for the
perfect ride with a combo of a good bell, but without a
“ping” ride. I’m partial to 22” rides and thinking about the
trying the A Custom 22 ride. Are you still using the 22” K
Con Dry as your main ride cymbal? What do you think of the
new Cindy sig model 22” K Custom Medium Ride?
- Steve
A.
Steve,
Zildjian has stopped making the
22” Constantinople Hi Bell Dry ride that I have been using
for the past few years. I have started using the Cindy
Blackman 22” ride for some things.
At first, I found it a little
heavier than I was used to but as I play it, I like it more.
I have noticed Zildjian has introduced some new rides like
the 22” K Light Ride and the 22” K Crash Ride Brilliant,
both of which I am going to check out.
Q.
Hi Steve,
I have discovered the snare drum
sound I am looking for, and it's yours. Can you enlighten me
as to the snare that you used in the first half of History
of the US Beat? Is it a Ludwig Black Beauty? Heads? Tuning?
Snare wires? Hoops? 5 1/2 X 14?
Congratulations on a long and
rewarding career. I hope to meet sometime. Wishing you
health, swing and pocket.
- Dan Hull, Buffalo, NY
A.
Dan,
The snare drum that I used on
the vintage kit in my History of the U.S. Beat DVD is a 1928
5x14 Ludwig Black Beauty. I set it up with a Remo Fyberskin
3 Diplomat head on top and a clear Dip on the bottom.
The rims are original straight
edge rims with clips and the snares are new Puresound 12
strands. I’d say I used a medium high tuning on the top head
and I have the bottom head tuned slightly higher than the
top head.
The drum has a very dark sound
with a lot of bottom, a truly excellent snare drum. For most
of the DVD, I use a 5x14 Jeff Ocheltree metal snare drum
that is a great modern snare drum. My new Sonor Steve
Smith Artist Series drumset has a snare 5 1/2x14
snare drum modeled after the Ocheltree drum.
The snare drum uses a very heavy
steel shell, which helps the drum generate some solid lows.
Highs seem to be quite easy to achieve in most snare drums -
it’s the lows that are hard to find. With the lows, I feel
I’m getting a full sound with a wide spectrum of tones.
Q.
Hi Steve,
I’ve been a fan of yours since
the Journey days and even now my teenage children are
Journey fans.
Besides Vital information, I
especially love your work with VTT. Your array of cymbal
sounds makes the music so much more expressive. I am trying
to figure out the exact cymbal combination you use for the
left side effects stack I have seen you use.
I can find in your set up list
that it is a 12” “Special Effects” with an 8” A Custom
splash on top. I cannot find a cymbal called the “12”
Special Effects” you name on the Zildjian Web site. Could
you give me more specific details on the cymbal in question?
Also, I have observed a small
cymbal lying on your second snare but haven’t been able to
pinpoint the sound that derives from that setup. Any help
would be appreciated.
- Tim, Milledgeville, GA
A.
Tim,
I don’t think Zildjian makes
that 12” Special EFX cymbal any longer. Basically it was a
very small china cymbal. I put an 8” splash on top of it and
the sound was very short and abrupt.
Zildjian has a cymbal called the
14” ZXT Trashformer that is a good cymbal for that type of
sound and it works well to stack with other cymbals. As for
the splash on the snare drum, I put a 6” splash on my snare
to get an “electronic drum machine” type of sound. I got the
idea from Johnny Rabb and Jojo Mayer, as they use that idea
to great effect.
Try it out!
Q.
Hi Steve.
Did you have any specific
methods in learning polyrhythms? You seem to be comfortable
playing in any polyrhythmic feel. How did you become
comfortable with some of the toughest polyrhythms like 7:5,
9:5 etc....
Would be great if you can
enlighten me?
Yours sincerely,
- Deepak
A.
Deepak,
I started by playing the basic
subdivisions of a quarter note. I started simple, by playing
five 16th notes in the space of four 16th notes, or seven
16th notes in the space of four 16th notes. I did that by
working out of the Gary Chaffee books and learning to
literally count the subdivisions: 12345, 12345, etc.
That would be considered 5 over
1, which is not a polyrhythm, it’s a subdivision of a beat.
Then, if I accent every other note of that 5:1, I will be
playing 5 over 2. That is a polyrhythm because you are
playing more than one rhythm at the same time. After that
you can use the same formula and accent every third note to
get 5 over 3, etc…
Once you play these rhythms at
faster tempos, it’s no longer possible to make such precise
subdivisions and then you go to the next step. For me, I
used certain foot ostinatos to define the bass pulse and
then I worked on playing evenly spaced notes over the
ostinato and made sure that the “ones” lined up.
For example, play a simple
ostinato of 3/4 using all quarter notes: BD (on 1), HH (on
2), HH (on 3). If you play three quarter notes over that,
your hands are playing in unison with the feet. Then, play
four notes over the 3/4 ostinato and you are playing 4 over
3.
Then, move to 5 over 3: play
five evenly spaced notes over the 3 and make sure that the
hands and BD are in unison on each “1.” That’s it.
I did that with a 5/4 foot
ostinato: BD HH HH BD HH and started with 5 over 5 unison
and then gradually sped my hands up to 6 over 5, 7 over 5,
etc,. but I kept my feet in the same tempo. My focus is on
keeping the feet steady, lining up the “ones” and
“stretching” the rhythms with the hands so they are playing
even spaces between the beats.
I hope that helps.
Q.
Dear Steve,
I would like to say that you
have definitely got me interested in Indian Rhythms and
music with your performance at PASIC. I must say that it is
kind of difficult to understand for those of us who are
visual learners and grasp concepts better when they are
written down.
Are you going to write a book?
If not, is it possible for you to put some of the ideas you
covered on at PASIC down on paper?
Yours,
- Thomas K
A.
Thomas,
I wrote a six-part series for
Modern Drummer magazine that started in November,
2005, and ended in the April, 2006 issue. I started with
some basics and coved some key Indian rhythm concepts using
western notation.
Also, check out the following
question and answer...
Q.
Hi Steve,
Saw and met you last night at
the North Sea Jazz Festival. I really enjoyed
the concert with Steps and even more, your clinic about
konnakol.
It was very inspiring and I like
to know some more about the subject. As soon as I came home
I listened to Vitalization and tried to
analyze the vocals on "Interwoven Rhythms". I remembered
some of your clinic and tried "Google" the subject, but
couldn't find much.
This is what I got so far:
2 =Ta ka
3 =Ta ki ta
4 =Ta ka di mi
5 =Ta ka Ta ki ta 2 + 3
6 =Ta ka di mi Ta ka 4 + 2
7 =Ta ka di mi Ta ki ta 4 + 3
8 =Ta ka di mi Ta ka jo ne 4 + 4
9 =Ta ka di mi Ta ka Ta ki ta 4 + 2 + 3 (??)
Is this correct? I wish you lots
of success and hope to enjoy your music and drumming for a
long time.
- Rob
A.
Rob,
You have all of those syllables
correct except the final syllable of 8, which is “nu” as in:
"Ta ka di mi Ta ka jo nu." And the 9 is generally thought of
as 4+5.
Of course, there are many more
syllables and one day I hope to do an educational project on
Indian rhythms. Here is some info on the subject from some
writing I have been working on. Hope this excerpt helps:
A very common way to use five is
two plus three: "ta ka, ta ki ta." That implies two plus
three, you get the feeling of two plus three because of the
syllables.
"Ta di ki ta thom" is more of an
even five. It doesn’t imply two plus three, it’s five even
notes. The next example of five is: "ta ri ki ta thom." The
"ri" has a rolled "r" and is used at faster tempos.
As the tempo becomes faster, it
can be clumsy to use the "di," so use the "ri." In general,
the actual syllables used will depend on the tempo. These
are typically how I’ve learned the syllables and how I write
them. The way you write the syllables has not been
“officially” codified and becomes personalized.
There are not specific pitches or strokes assigned to these
konnakol phrases. With that being said, "thom" is generally
a lower pitch. I try to do that, but sometimes the rhythms
go by so fast that I don’t have time to play "thom" as a low
note. If I were to exaggerate this idea, I might play a
“five sticking” as: LRLLR, with the last right as a floor
tom.
You could play: snare, snare, snare, snare, low tom. That
would be a way of orchestrating that rhythm that would be
relatively correct for the Indian concept. When you say "thom,"
while you are reciting konnakol, you accentuate it in some
way by giving it a low tone.
A very common way of reciting six is three plus three: "ta
ki ta, ta ki ta." Another way to recite six is a “stretched
five:” "ta ri - ki ta thom."
This is also a very common way
of playing six that I’ve heard people refer to as a
“stretched five,” because you’re using the syllables of the
five but stretching the phrasing to fit the six. To clarify,
I’m using the syllables of the even five, but I’m tying the
second and third notes together to “stretch” the rhythm.
If we are talking about six 8th
notes, the second and third 8th notes are tied together so
you will be playing only five of the six beats, don’t play
the 3rd note: 1, 2 (3) 4, 5 6.
Q.
Are there any chord charts for
the Come On In CD? It is such a great disc. If
there is where could I purchase them?
- Dennis
A.
Dennis,
No, we don’t have written music
for sale for the tunes on Come On In. We are
working on a Hudson Music book for Vitalization.
It will have drum charts and lead sheets for each tune. I
have already mixed the album without drums so you can
play-along to the tracks.
I’m currently spending most of my time on my new Hudson
Music DVD Drum Legacy – Standing on the Shoulders of
Giants. When I am finished with that, I will turn my
attention to the Vitalization play-along book.
The Vitalization book will have an Indian
rhythms component to it because we did use the influence of
Indian rhythms for some of the tunes.
Q.
Mr. Smith,
What were the sizes of Sonor
drums you used on the new VI CD Vitalization?
Did you use a Designer or an SQ 2? Why did you use Remo
coated Ambassadors on your toms instead of clears?
Thanks,
- Greg Patterson
A.
Greg,
I used my blue maple Designer
kit, the same drums that are in my DVD Drumset
Technique/History of the U.S. Beat. The drums are
traditional sizes: 20x14 BD, 8x8, 10x8, 12,8 rack toms and
14x14, 16x16 floor toms.
I used a 5x12 Sonor side snare
and various main snares: 5x14 Ocheltree metal, 4x14 Sonor
bronze and a 4x14 Solid wood snare. I used the coated Remo
heads because they sounded better than the clear heads in
the particular studio that we used.
The drum room was very small and
made of cement blocks, this made the clear heads ring too
much. The coated heads had less sustain, which worked well.
Q.
Steve,
I was looking on the
Drummerworld site at the “Perfect Date” funky video
clip with Steve and Frank Gambale. Is there an entire
version of that available on DVD? Awesome clip!
Thanks.
- Ed McConnell
A.
Ed,
That is a clip from my Hudson
Music DVD: Steve Smith Drumset Technique/History of
the U.S. Beat. There are quite a few Vital
Information performances on that DVD.
Q.
Dear Mr. Smith,
I’m from Iran. I’m seventeen
years old. I’m a semi-professional player of Iranian
percussions like Tomabak.
When I completely got familiar
with rhythm I became interested in drum especially jazz &
funk drumming. And it’s about three years that I have drum
kit. But there isn’t any jazzman to teach in Iran.
How can I learn jazz or funk
drumming? Do you have any suggestion? I’m looking forward to
hearing from you.
Yours sincerely,
- Mohammad Shojaee
A.
Mohammad,
You can start by listening to,
and playing along with, a lot of jazz and funk music and
getting some DVDs where you can watch drummers play the
music. There are a number of instructional DVDs, as I’m sure
you know. The only way to truly learn to play the drumset in
certain styles is to play with musicians who “live and
breath” that style.
This may be difficult in Iran. If you can’t find any
musicians to play with, try some of the “play-along”
recordings that are available. In the DVD/CD package
The Art Of Playing With Brushes (Hudson Music),
there is an excellent play-along CD with Vic Juris on guitar
and Jay Anderson on bass.
There are many jazz feels and
tempos on the CD. I practice to this almost every day. All
the drummers played along to it in the “Brushes" DVD and I
used some of the tracks to play to in my new Hudson Music
DVD Drum Legacy – Standing on the Shoulders of Giants.
If you get a chance to come to
the USA or another country for a “drum camp” or to go to a
school like The Drummers Collective, that is
also a great way to learn to play the drum set in many
different styles.
All the best to you.
Q.
I was blown away by a YouTube
video of you guys performing "Rattle Trap." Did you ever
actually record it for a CD?
Thanks,
- John Smart - Huge Fan
A. John,
That YouTube clip is ripped from
the DVD Modern Drummer Festival 2003, (Hudson
Music) where Vital Information played “A Little Something,”
“Over and Out!” and Bill Evans’ “Rattletrap.” Bill Evans was
our special guest for that tour and we played a couple of
his tunes during the set.
At the MD Fest, we didn’t have
much time, so I did some soloing before the band came out
and then we played the three tunes. We never recorded
“Rattletrap” with Vital Info but I did record that on the
double live CD Soulbop Band Live with Bill Evans, Randy
Brecker, Hiram Bullock, Dave Kikoski, and Victor Bailey.
Q.
Dear Steve,
I bought your History of
the U.S. Beat DVD and it has been of great help in
developing my bass drum technique. I must, however, ask:
what is the advantage of having your foot slightly off the
pedal with the heel raised as opposed to the regular old
heel up position?
I use your technique because
when I use the old heel up technique, I find myself slipping
into the constant release technique by accident. So, aside
from keeping techniques separate, what, if any, advantages
are there to this heel position?
Thanks in advance.
- Thomas
A.
Thomas,
I’m not sure what you mean by
“regular old heel up.” I have my foot at a slight angle on
the bass drum pedal because that is the way my foot
naturally falls when I sit down.
I only have the heel slightly
lifted because then I have more control and can get the
beater to come off the head and I can stay centered and
balanced on the kit. If I had my heel raised very high and
my foot at a severe angle, I would have far less control and
it would be quite difficult to get the beater to rebound off
the bass drum head.
If that is what you man by
“regular old heel up,” then my answer is: that is a
technique that I don’t use because it’s hard to control and
it’s difficult to maintain my balance with that approach.
Q.
Hello, Steve.
Since obtaining your DCI VHS
Steve Smith Part Two, many years ago, I became a fan of your
drumming and also noticed and incredible amount of
improvement in your chops. Recently I’ve been watching your
latest DVD on drum techniques and I have a question;
specifically about your heel/toe bass drum playing.
Most
drummers tend to hit with the heel then the toe and so on to
describe their rocking motion. However, your technique
clearly shows the toe making both hits.
To me, your way would
be best for louder situations. I tried practicing for some
time now hitting the pedal with the heel then the toe with
little success. It just doesn’t seem feasible. I can’t seem
to get very clear sounds or much speed.
I‘m using double
Iron Cobra pedals and wonder if I’m just wasting my
practice time with that technique. It seems the time I take
practicing your technique would be best to achieve the
results I’m looking for, which is speed and dynamics on a
single pedal. Do you agree?
Any other
comments would be appreciated. Also do you recommend any
particular type of pedal? Anxiously awaiting your reply.
- Walter
A. Walter,
I use a number of techniques on the bass drum pedal.
Heel down, heel slightly up, the full leg and foot together,
and the “Constant Release.”
I feel I need all the different
techniques in order to address different approaches. I switch between all of these techniques all the time,
as it’s
important to have a lot of options in your playing
techniques.
I do think it makes sense to spend time on the
“Constant Release” method, though it can be quite hard to
learn without a teacher to give you proper feedback. If you
watch my teaching demonstration carefully in the Hudson
Music DVD Drumset Technique, you’ll see that I stress that
it is important to develop the “Constant Release” technique
very slowly, over a long period of time.
Don’t try to get a
sound at first, just master the motions involved. Notice
what I say about people who try to get a sound too soon or
take “short-cuts.”
I’ve tried the Iron Cobra and found it too heavy for my
uses. I like a pedal that feels light and responds
effortlessly.
I use the DW 9000 Titanium, the standard DW
9000, and other DW pedals like the DW5000. The Sonor pedals
are quite good too as are the Pearl pedals. I’d say those
are my top three choices.
In order to get the sound and feel
I’m looking for, I use a medium size DW felt beater and I do
not fully extend the beater. It's lowered a bit. That way, the
beaters swing smoothly and I can play with a lot of
dynamics.
When the beaters are fully extended, it's harder
from me to control them and play softly. I don’t use any
weights on the beaters. I have the springs tensioned very
loosely because I want the pedal to feel like it’s not even
there. It just follows the motion of my foot.
Q. Steve,
First of all, I want you to know that I have enjoyed watching
you play since your Journey days. Really like the Vital
Information sound and also enjoyed your History of the U.S.
Beat DVD.
I just got done watching you and Vital
Information play on the Modern Drummer Festival Weekend
2003. I noticed that you have some sort of device on the
back of the kick drum head that your beaters seem to hit. Is
that some sort of amplification piece?
Your double bass
sound seems to be more intense than in other videos I
have seen you in. I am looking to mic up my set. Right now, I
am checking out all possibilities. Would appreciate any
advice that you may have.
Thank You,
- Charlie Hall, St. Petersburg,
FL
A. Charlie,
The drum set I used at the
MD ’03 concert has a
microphone mounted inside the bass drum. It’s a Shure Beta
52 mounted with a May EA system. This setup works very well,
especially when I don’t have a hole in the front bass drum
head, which was the situation at the MD Fest concert.
I can recommend this setup and I’ve had a few of my drum sets
equipped with internal bass drum mics.
Q. Hey Steve,
I know you were just a kid on Enigmatic Ocean, but your
playing KICKS MY ASS!! I was wondering who was playing most
of the keyboards on the album. I know Jean Luc played piano,
but was it primarily Alan Zavod?
Thanks!
- a huge fan, Aaron Mills
A. Aaron,
Enigmatic Ocean was recorded live in the studio and I
don’t think there were any overdubs at all on the album.
Alan Zavod played all the keyboards on that record.
Jean-Luc
brought us charts of the music one week before the recording
and we rehearsed the new music for that week. We went into
the studio and recorded the tunes in the same sequence that
they appear on the record - that was the first and only time
I’ve had that experience.
Usually, the songs on an album are
recorded and then sequenced later. But Jean-Luc had the
entire sequence worked out ahead of time. I think it only
took four days to make the entire record.
We recorded
Enigmatic Ocean 31 years ago when I was only 22 years old! I
am amazed that it still sounds good so many years later.
Q. Hi Steve,
Where did you get the center foam idea? I have the Birch
ones and they actually bounce. Is there any chance of making
the Bamboo ones in a longer stick with a larger diameter? I
believe bamboo is fairly indestructible. I love your ideas,
both in the rock idiom and in the jazz world. Hope all is
well with you and yours.
Regards,
- Lee Kix
A. Lee,
Glad you like the Tala Wands. I find them very useful
and the foam really helps with the feel.
I worked with designer Dave Rundle. I let him know that I wanted bundles
made of both bamboo and birch that had rebound. He came up
with a few different ideas of putting something inside the
bundle so it would have a better feel.
He actually came up
with the foam idea but I helped him identify that the foam
worked better than his other ideas. I then helped him
perfect the details of the Tala Wand: how many dowels to use
and exactly where to place the tape near the tip of the
bundle to get the best feel.
Also, I wanted the tape to go
up far enough up the shaft so that when I used traditional grip, I
wouldn’t be touching the dowels. There were details and
feedback on the glue used, colors, and many more tiny (but crucial) fine points.
The process took about two years. I
agree about the bamboo - it is pretty indestructible. As far
as adding different models, it is a distant possibility.
The
two models are selling well and if Vic Firth feels as though
he could sell another model, we may be able to do that. I
have had other people ask for the same thing, so I will talk
to Vic about this and see what he says.
Q. Greetings Mr. Smith.
Recently, I was fortunate enough to see you play live with
your band Vital Information in Half Moon Bay, CA. The
performance inspired me to pick up your video, Steve Smith,
Part One.
In my humble opinion, it offered a great
wealth of information. I continue to tackle many of the
exercises. Many thanks. My question revolves around your
snare setup.
In the video, your snare is in a more
'traditional' position, yet during your live performance, it
was mounted at a steep angle with the head facing away and
to the right of you. I was curious as to why you took this
approach toward the setup? Does this angle provide you an
advantage to certain fills?
Regards,
- Scott
A. Scott,
Thanks for coming to the gig and for checking out the video.
I'm going to give a long answer to your question and this
may be more info than you really need, but as I started
answering the question, the ideas started to flow!
I made that video over twenty years ago and my playing has
evolved quite a bit since then. I was still gripping my
sticks toward the butt ends instead of the way I do now,
which is more toward the middle of the stick.
Fred Gruber
pointed out how hard I was working to get each stroke
because when I held the sticks so far back, they didn't
rebound off of the drum head at all, they just came to a
stop with each stroke and then I had to start the next
stroke from scratch.
By aligning my fulcrum with the
“balance point" (the point on the stick where it rebounds
easily when you drop it), I was on my way to an efficient
and effortless stick technique. Actually, how I hold the
sticks now is similar to how I held them when I first
started playing, but I moved my grip back on the sticks once
I started playing in Journey so I could get more "throw" and
get a louder attack.
Now, with my new and improved grip, the
sticks rebound off of the head and they feel much lighter. I
have more control and I can play as loud, or as soft, as I
want. I hadn't taken the time to really work on my hand
technique in the Journey days so I took a short cut that, in
the long run, didn't serve me.
I have played with Journey and other rock situations since
developing my new techniques and I could play just as strong
as I wanted. I got a big sound from the drums – even bigger
and more open than before – and it required much less
effort.
The results are on the 1996 Journey recording
Trial
By Fire. Though the mixes on that recording are not as “tom
heavy” as the Journey mixes in the early 80s, I know that I
got a better overall drum sound, especially on the snare
drum.
As far as the angle of the snare drum is concerned, first of
all, I find it interesting that you call having the drum
tilted toward you "traditional." I call the way I have it
tilted, which, as you say, is away from me, “traditional.”
That angle comes from the marching band tradition and the
early swing and bebop drummers.
I play using the same
traditional grip that the original jazz drummers used and
I’ve raised my seat a little so I sit over the snare drum
more than I used to. When I let my arms relax, they are not
parallel to the floor, but my hands are lower than my elbows.
If we think of the stick as an extension of the arm, then
when they are at rest, the stick will continue this downward
angle. Thus, I accommodate the drum to that downward angle.
The sticks also seems to rebound better off of a head that
is either flat or tilted away from you than one angled
toward you. It has something to do with the physics of it
all, though I can’t give you an exact description of that.
This allows me to play rim shots with very little motion. A simple turn of the wrist or a drop of
the hand - and the rim is right there.
Check out some pictures of Baby Dodds, Gene Krupa, Buddy
Rich, or Tony Williams, and you will see this more
"traditional" angle. In fact, check out African Djembe
players, Indian Tabla, players and Afro-Caribbean Conga
players, and you will notice the drums are all angled away
from them. This is a very natural and ergonomic playing
position.
The way most people angle the drum now
comes from
sitting lower so their arms are angled up, and from players who,
for the most part, are not using a lot of finesse or rebound,
but are playing "through" the drum.
I see some players who are
sitting in such a way as their left hand may even hit their
leg when they hit the snare drum. I can’t imagine that this
is an advantageous way of efficiently playing the snare
drum.
By playing “through the drum,” I mean that the player
perceives the "point of impact" - that point where the
stick comes into contact with the head - as below the
actual surface of the head. I used to play like this, and it's
like I was trying to hit something below the surface of the
drumhead, driving my stick into the head.
The actual point
of impact is the surface of the drumhead itself. If one is
allowing rebound to happen, then the head will not have a
big dent, or pit, in the middle. The heads will stay smooth
and flat. They eventually wear out and lose their tonal
resonance, but they will last a very long time.
On the other hand, if one continues their downward motion
even after the stick has reached the surface of the head,
imagining the point of impact as below the surface of the
head, the results are: the head takes a beating, and your sticks
and body absorb the energy and shock as the stick collides
with the head. OUCH!
Hopefully, the stick will break before
your arm does, but by that time, you've probably done some
damage to both. Try walking and banging your feet into the
floor with every step, or playing a pair of claves by
smashing them together, or jamming a basketball into the
floor without allowing it to bounce. This is what happens
when you play through a drumhead.
Now, notice how you
actually do walk. You know where the surface of the floor is
and you glide smoothly over it. Now, imagine a great tap
dancer like Fred Astaire or Gregory Hines, and you'll get the
idea of really playing off the top of the drumhead.
Once you discover the point of impact is really the surface
of the head and allow the sticks to rebound as they touch it, you won't hurt yourself, your sticks and heads will last
a LOT longer, and you'll get a beautiful sound from the
drums.
Q. Steve,
I was wondering if you could help me out. I am breaking sticks left and right, not on the
cymbals, but on the rim of my snare.
I know I hit a little
harder than most, but I have been trying to move my snare up
and down and at different angles and nothing seems to help.Recently, I switched to a 2B stick, but now I am looking to
go back to a 5B because the 2Bs just plain old wear me out
and I seem to go through twice as many heads.
I usually play ProMark wood tips but keep breaking the tips on those too.
I've tried Vic Firth, but seem to destroy those faster.
Thanks.
- Andy
A. Sorry to give you the bad news, Andy, but going through
sticks and heads is all related to technique. You chose the
size of the drumstick by what feels natural in your hand and
the sounds that you want to hear from your drums and
cymbals. If the sticks are breaking, it’s because you are continuing a downward
motion once the stick has touched the head and rim of your
drum.
This is also why you are going through heads. Your sticks
are literally going into the drumhead instead of striking
the head and getting “off the drum.”
An ideal technique will allow the stick to come off the head
as soon as it hits. This way, you produce a very full sound,
the head and the sticks vibrate freely, and you don’t hurt
yourself or damage your sticks or heads.
There are a number
of good DVDs on improving your hand technique. I get into it
on my Drumset Technique/History of the U.S. Beat. Jojo Mayer’s new DVD,
Secret Weapons for the Modern Drummer,
is also excellent.
To give you an idea of what is possible, I break maybe one
stick a year, and I always know why. It’s usually due to
gripping the stick too tightly and forcing something.
When I
talked to Vic Firth about this, he confirmed that certain
drummers like Steve Gadd and Dave Weckl, who have good
technique, don’t require many sticks from him.
I go through about one pair of
sticks a week because they chip a little on the edges of my
crash cymbals and I like the feel of fresh sticks. I’ll go
through about 40 pairs a year which, according to Vic (who
sends some drummers 40 pairs a week), is not that many!
Have a question for
Steve?
Write to
questions@vitalinformation.com . Steve will answer
as many questions as he can right here in future editions of
The Vital Informer.
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